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jmc_bks ([personal profile] jmc_bks) wrote2006-03-01 07:43 am
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First half of Lover Eternal (spell much? Eternal, not Enternal)

The vote was unanimous -- start with Ward's Lover Eternal. So I did. And I'm at about the half way point of the book. It's moving much faster (for me, anyway) than Dark Lover did. I think that's because less world-building is necessary now: the world of the Black Dagger Brotherhood has already been established, readers have been introduced to the main characters, etc. Plus, I get Rhage more than I got Wrath. I didn't (still don't) understand why his blindness wasn't changed with his physical transformation. The problem for me wasn't that Wrath is nearly blind, it was that the transformation had an impact on him physically otherwise but seemed to selectively skip over that. ::shrugs::

Anyway, things I like about LE so far:

1. The beauty and the beast theme. Although Mary isn't a beauty queen, she's utterly beautiful to Rhage. I'm guessing that at some point, she'll have to accept his inner beast. I'm also guessing that since she's human and ill, Rhage will try to work a deal with the Scribe Virgin to save her life and it will include something to do with the inner beast, maybe with keeping it forever in exchange for her health.

2. Connectedness of the brothers. Pretty much all of the brothers have small parts to play in this book so far. Their appearances contribute to the plot and also give glimpses of their own stories to come. We see more of Tohr's relationship with his wife, Wellsie; Phury's relationship with Zsadist; and we meet the woman who will be Zsadist's heroine. I was kind of thinking that I'd like to read Phury's story before Z's, but that wouldn't make sense now. P's guilt about Z and his interactions with Z and with Bella make it clear that P can't have a HEA unless/until Z does.

3. Chemistry between Rhage and Mary. Hot, hot, hot.

There are a couple of minor things that bother me: the lessers and the slang. The lessers seem amorphous and aimlessly evil to me. Maybe I need to re-read DL, but I just don't get what drives them. They seem like faceless villains without much characterization. And some of the slang is overused. There has got to be another hip way to say "Are we clear?", other than "feel me." Call me a perv, but when I read the words "feel me", the meaning "do you understand" is not the first thing I think of.

Major ick factor for me -- SPOILER : Rhage and Mary have sex after he's had sex with numberless, faceless women earlier in the evening. I know that sex is a release for the beast, and Rhage hates it. There's an awesome exchange with Tohrment early on about his sexlife that really highlights his distaste for what he does. Mary & Rhage's chemistry is burning, but he's worried about losing control of the beast while with her, so he won't have sex with her. [Which is awfully Clintonian of him, since pretty much the only thing he hasn't done with her is outright penetration. But that's another debate.] She has issues about sex, too. And she knows where he's going and what he's going to do. She's mad when he returns, so what does she do? She has sex with him. Literally, she jumps on him. I have mixed feelings about his sex with other people after claiming her as his mate to his brothers, but I can deal with that. It's just the way they have sex the first time squicks me out. All I could think through the love scene was, "Sloppy seconds -- ewwww!"

Having said that, I'm looking forward to finishing the book this evening...assuming that life does not interfere and ruin my plans.

[identity profile] jperceval.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing that a bunch of us always wondered about Wrath's blindness (besides the fact that it didn't heal with the transformation) was how was he able to shave the full monty? *g*

Can't wait to get my hands on this one.

[identity profile] sarahf.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
So, do you think she's going to kill off Wellsie, maybe with her pregnancy? If you read her webpage, it says something about "Tohrment: the steady one, the calm one. He is the one whose betrayal by fate will cut the deepest." Noooo! Why can't we leave just one of them happy, dammit?

Don't have the book yet....but I want to see how she's going to make Mary a vampire if there's not supposed to be conversion between human and vampires. Because then maybe Butch can get it. Is there more with Butch and M...whatever her name is?

How can you not read the end, dammit! It's usually the first thing I read. ;)

[identity profile] jmc-bks.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The little bit of Tohr and Wellsie was cool, showing them as a happy couple. His worries about pregnancy were repeated [along with a mention of a year plus gestation, which is just cruel for female vampires, I think], so it won't surprise me if Wellsie dies in one of the following books.

Re: human conversion to vampires, I've been wondering that same thing; since Mary is sick already, can something be done? I'm assuming so, otherwise I'll be very p.o.'d to have the happy ending followed by Mary's death due to cancer.

Sometimes I skip to the back, just to see the end. But in this case, I was sidetracked by Z's story :)

[identity profile] sarahf.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to Z. All that angst.

Not even the death from cancer, but the whole, yeah, she's better now, but she's still going to die in 50 years as opposed to 500.

I'm hoping that something happens with Wellsie, but then they still manage to stay together rather than getting together with another female what will be so soon after Wellsie's death, especially since they're pictured as so happy together and so much in love.

[identity profile] jmc-bks.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you read Rosario's review (http://rosario.blogspot.com/2006/02/danger-calls-by-caridad-pieiro.html) of Caridad Pineiro's series romances about vampires? There is a human-vampire couple (h/h of the 1st book of the series) who appear in the second and third books of the series, and how their relationship will turn out, since she'll die long before him, hasn't been signalled yet by the author.

forgot to answer earlier -- sorry!

[identity profile] jmc-bks.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a little bit about Butch and Marissa, at the beginning of LE. His courtship is *not* going well.

Tohrment

[identity profile] rosario001.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
But will there actually be a book for Tohrment? I was thinking the same about how I didn't want Wellsie to die, but then I read AngieW's interview with JR Ward, and she writes:

My publisher has purchased six books so far and here's the order: Wrath, Rhage, Zsadist, Vishous, Butch (yes, Butch gets his own book!) and Phury. There are four more thereafter in my head and then some subspecies in the world I would love to explore.
... so it could go either way!

Re: Tohrment

[identity profile] jmc-bks.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Another warrior (or at least a potential one) is introduced in LE, named Tehrror. But he's an infant, really, in comparison to the others because he hasn't changed/transformed yet. I wonder if his story is one of the other 4 Ward has in her head. Plus, Bella (Z's heroine) has internal monologue about her brother, who is apparently a very protective vampire. The possibilities are endless :)

Re: Tohrment

[identity profile] sarahf.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Whew! Well, at least for now it looks like Wellsie is safe. I guess we'll see. I can't wait for Z's book! Can't wait! The more tormented the better.